I was watching Jamie Oliver's Pukka Tukka while translating the ingredients to Bahasa Melayu so Tok could write it down in Jawi in her recipe notebook. Young Jamie Oliver was cooking braised chicken with red peppers, mouthing 'Pukka Tukka' now and then.Tok loves watching his shows and refers him as Chef Mat Salleh Yang Cakap Macam Takdak Gigi Tu.
20 minutes passed as Jamie mixed the braised chicken with red peppers to be sauteed. I was translating the whole program like a professional Word Debate translator and Tok was writing furiously like a Jawi newspaper reporter.
"Dia campuq skali lada merah dengan ayam tadi."
"Lepah tu?"
"Lepah tu dia boh bawang yang dia goreng asing tadi."
"Lepah tu?"
"Manalah Afiq tau, dia tak buat pa lagi! Oh, lepah tu dia boh wain Chardonnay."
Kraaaakkkk!
I looked back and saw Tok tearing a whole page.
"Awat Tok?"
"Dia guna arak, mana boleh makan. Haram."
Is it haram to add wine into sauteed dishes? In my limited experience, white wine will lose its alcohol content when sauteed. Even if there are traces of alcohol left in the sauteed dish, it will not make people drunk, not even a bit.
I never doubt myself when I eat dishes that has white wine, red wine or rum because it cannot make anyone drunk. Consumption of alcohol is haram when it is abused to cause intentional numbness of the mind. As far as I'm concerned, tapai is more likely to make me drunk than any dish mixed with wine.
Methyphobia in Malaysia is legendary. There was a time when even perfumes with alcohol is considered haram. There were even alternative 'Islamic perfumes' with no added alcohol.
It is understandable that a lot of Muslims consider using white wine in their cooking haram because having white wine in the kitchen cabinets will somehow prompt alcohol consumption. But then again, almost all toilets at home have alcohol readily available for the whole family: Listerine!
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Afiq, i too have doubt regarding this arak in food/cooking. get the latest al-islam magazine, May.
Salam
he is fookin gud in cook!
al islam boleh baca ke? yang mana eh yang astora jabat tu? ke apa nama? sudah lupa.
kenapa tak boleh baca? Astora Jabat? Pebende tu?
Question: Why is alcohol forbidden in Islam?
Answer: Intoxicants were forbidden in the Qur'an through several separate verses revealed at different times over a period of years. At first, it was forbidden for Muslims to attend to prayers while intoxicated (4:43). Then a later verse was revealed which said that alcohol contains some good and some evil, but the evil is greater than the good (2:219). This was the next step in turning people away from consumption of it. Finally, "intoxicants and games of chance" were called "abominations of Satan's handiwork," intended to turn people away from God and forget about prayer, and Muslims were ordered to abstain (5:90-91). (Note - the Qur'an is not arranged chronologically, so later verses of the book were not necessarily revealed after earlier verses.)
In the first verse cited above, the word for "intoxicated" is sukara which is derived from the word "sugar" and means drunk or intoxicated. That verse doesn't mention the drink which makes one so. In the next verses cited, the word which is often translated as "wine" or "intoxicants" is al-khamr, which is related to the verb "to ferment." This word could be used to describe other intoxicants such as beer, although wine is the most common understanding of the word.
Muslims interpret these verses in total to forbid any intoxicating substance -- whether it be wine, beer, gin, whiskey, or whatever. The result is the same, and the Qur'an outlines that it is the intoxication, which makes one forgetful of God and prayer, which is harmful. Over the years, the list of intoxicating substances has come to include more modern street drugs and the like.
The Prophet Muhammad also instructed his followers, at the time, to avoid any intoxicating substances -- (paraphrased) "if it intoxicates in a large amount, it is forbidden even in a small amount." For this reason, most observant Muslims avoid alcohol in any form, even small amounts that are sometimes used in cooking.
and yeah, why cant you read al islam?
i read it all the time.
the thing is, alcohol will dissipate when sauteed. the traces of wine when sauteed are wine without alcohol.
even when teppanyaki are prepared, the cook will wipe the grilling surface with a substance that has alcohol and not an ounce will remain because of the heat.
apa2 rancangan masakan yg menggunakan wain sbg bahannya, kita boleh tukar dengan minyak zaitun. tips daripada Chef Wan.
;)
In alcoholic beverages, there are many type of hydroxyl group. Ethanol is the simples structure occurs in the alcoholic beverages, ex:wine. If we look from our eyes, the substance seems to be dissipated (evaporate actually) however chemically, the simplest substance such as methanol are completely evaporate only at 64 degree Celsius. Therefore the increasing of carbon in hydroxyl group such as ethanol (78 degree), propanol (97 degree) etc will have higher boiling point then methanol. Logically, do we cook up to this temperature? The remaining hydroxyl substance like Ethanol is a psychoactive, with depressant effects on the central nervous system.
-Young chemist-
p/s correct me if i'm wrong.
sy lupa la majalah mana. rasanya al islam kalau tak silap. yang editor dia tu astora jabat.
rasanya kena ban kot. sebab sebarkan ajaran sesat.. ada sesetengah tu menyimpang jauh.
kalau sy tak silap la.
:)
Alcohol is haram for consumption be it in a small or large quantity. But that shouldn't stop us from using the receipes by substituting/omitting the alcohol.
High five Azfarul :)
And yea, I love Jamie Oliver too!!
Alcohol is haram for consumption be it in a small or large quantity.
Yup agreed with Syukcurz. Ada pendapat mengatakan pengharaman sebab najis dan bukan hanya kerana memabukkan semata-mata. In this case, I would suggest we do some research and consider pecahan pendapat...ulama.
hmm i've always wondered on this for the longest of time but then again for me, rather than thinking is it ok to eat food cooked with wine/such id just stay away from it.
lol still- ganti it with minyak zaitun eh? must give it a try!
How can one substitute liquid with oil? I've tries using fruit juice for substitution. Grape, Apple, Apricot or Orange juice. Unsugared.
I suppose it makes sense. It's safe to assume when you stir fry something, temperatures are above 100 degrees Celsius.
In those conditions, I would believe that all the alcohol would have evaporated so technically, it is no longer considered as alcohol.
replace wine with olive oil? that's ludacris! I think if you were to substitute wine in your cooking, slightly seasoned fruit juice would do the trick.
Exactly Feizal, it's only logical. I'm not trying to weasel myself to consume wine and get drunk but in some dishes, wine is a vital ingredient.
If you're was-was or doubtful, don't use wine lah. I never find wine a taboo. I drank my first tuak when I was 14 because it was offered by a ketua kampung of a village in Sabah. I drank a whole cup as a sign of respect. No biggie.
slm.
the young chemist has got it right.
use non-alcoholic apple cider vinegar. it tastes just the same.
or so my non-muslim, alcohol refraining friend said.
i would advise you to not read al-islam. mostly a whole bunch of crap.
wait...alcohol is not haram!!!don't get it wrong...when u mix with this & that & for some particular reason..then its haram..kalau alcohol haram..luka nak cuci pakai apa? sabun FAB? if alcohol haram = ethanol, methanol, petrol, minyak tanah tak bleh pakai laa...habis kete dgn hospital kena samak...so, pls get a correct statement/fact..TQ.
art, these people are clearly saying that alcohol is haram to be consumed..duh
and why tak boleh baca Al-Islam?
Bukan ke pengarang mastika dah ambil alih? Yang cakap jangan baca tu bila you last baca, 5 tahun lepas? -.-
art, go do some reading. It is not najis, it is haram to be consumed. It is not najis mughollazoh, needing for us to perform samak in case of contact.
and yes, for me no matter big or small in quantity, haram is still haram.
If I apply the same logic, lets say if the scientists are able to remove all the worms and dangerous elements in pigs, would you say that pork has become fit for muslim consumption?
pork is haram. alcohol is not. it is haram when consumed to intentionally get drunk.
like drugs la. it is haram when abused but not when used out of necessity.
it is necessary to add wine in certain dishes.
i will buy a copy of Al-Islam and investigate what fuss is all about.
"alcohol is not. it is haram when consumed to intentionally get drunk."However, as 'Oh, Sara' said:
"'if it intoxicates in a large amount, it is forbidden even in a small amount.' For this reason, most observant Muslims avoid alcohol in any form, even small amounts that are sometimes used in cooking."
afiq,
Sorry, maybe using the pork analogy was wrong.
In any way, choose the lesser evil. For arak in dishes, we have the apple cider vinegar rite? Should taste the same according to anon just now.
Kalau dah keperluan as in the case of drugs, nak buat macam mana? Nak mati sebab nak kata dadah haram? Tak pasal2 nanti menjawab kat "sana" =)
we have the alcohol-free mouthwash as well. Ada jual kat supermarket dan farmasi.
dah Allah cakap khamar tu haram, ada la sebabnya. Memang la wine tu ada antioxidant la, nutriens la, tapi keburukan lagi banyak.
i stand to be corrected
to feizal,
100 degrees stand for water boiling point, after this point water (liquid form) converted to vapour(gases form). (budak tingkatan 1 pon taw hehee..)
if u cook at 100 degrees an above, that means after a few minutes there is nothing left in ur frypan except benda2 hangus jer.
actully we cook below 100 degrees celcius to make sure the vegie's freshness. so, wine and its substances is still remain in ur dishes. klu cm2 bek g lab n telan jer ethanol tu. the effect is still da same.
if dat so..wut is the actual purpose of adding wine into d foods?..alcoholic drinks hv their own burn-off limit..it tooks for about 2.5 hours to make sure that there are only 5% alcohol left inside the food which is still considered haram for muslim..
i dont drink listerine by d way..
btw. +HappySesame+ is a food technologies.
-young chemist-
I drank my first tuak when I was 14 because it was offered by a ketua kampung of a village in Sabah. I drank a whole cup as a sign of respect. No biggie.
- ko sanggup minum semate sbb 'respect'??
- mcm mane plak ngan keredhaan Allah? ko x pk ke?? bkn ke itu yg patut diutamakn..
- ckp jela ko x minum tuak, sepatutnye die yg respect ko
btw, alcohol tuh da mmg haram..ape pon laa intention nye..haram ttp haram..tp setgh org ske nak complicated kan bende yg da mmg ob vious...
btol gak kate +HappySesame+ , kalo alcohol tuh da ilang, ape natijah p letak alcohol dlm tuh
if the alcohol dissipate or evaporate why don't u just use grape juice and what's the whole point of using wine?
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